Kiki: "Wow, that's amazing! How did you write letters? Who read the documents for you?"
Jon Lim: "I wrote the letters, and then the employees read them."
Kiki: "Oh, how did you write letters? Did you use speech recognition software for your computer?"
Jon Lim: "Back then, there were no computers, I used a manual typewriter with ten fingers."
Kiki: "Wow, I see."
Jon Lim: "In 2008, I stopped working as a legal expert and service provider because I fell ill. Fortunately, I met a client who said he would help me if I supplied him with scrap metal from Kalimantan. In addition, I bought heavy equipment to rent out. As sourcing scrap metal became increasingly challenging, I shifted my focus to heavy equipment rental and also aimed to develop my plastic manufacturing business."
Kiki: "What is the name of your plastic factory?"
Jon Lim: "Perdana Putra Utama Jaya."
Kiki: "What about the name of your heavy equipment rental company?"
Jon Lim: "The same, Perdana Putra Utama Jaya."
Kiki: "So, do you currently have two companies in Balikpapan? Do you operate in other cities as well?"
