A: What are points need to achieve Indonesia 2045 Vision?
B: Many... and mostly how to improve all people's life, health, work, environment, and education quality.
A: I'm sure it won't be easy for Indonesia to achieve that due to our complexity as a nation.
B: True, but we must be optimistic and doing our very best to achieve that.
A: In economic field, our exports aren't stable. Our currency rate is also up and down.
B: It happens in many countries too. So, it's normal as a part of economic dynamics.
A: Should we also press down the number of birth rate to slow down population growth?
B: Yes, I think we should because bigger population means bigger problems.
A: OK. Anyway, as a writer or blogger, are you planning to do this job until you get old?
B: Yes, why not? Good and inspiring writings are also big contributions for the country.